Episode 81 with Clint Keeley
In the most recent episode of our leadership-focused podcast, we had the privilege of hosting retired Command Sergeant Major Clint Keeley, whose distinguished military background and current role in consulting paint a vivid picture of what it means to be a leader in both the armed forces and the civilian world. The conversation navigates the complexities of leading with authenticity, the convergence of military precision with civilian demands, and the transformational journey from a high-stakes battlefield commander to a mentor who cultivates presence and purpose beyond the front lines.
The transition from military to civilian life is often fraught with challenges, but for Clint, it presented an opportunity to redefine the principles of leadership. His experiences during significant historical moments, such as 9/11 and his active role in combat, have forged a philosophy grounded in the power of authenticity and the importance of vulnerability. Clint emphasizes that true leadership is not about rank or title but about the ability to guide, inspire, and grow with one's team, especially when facing adversity.
Accountability, a cornerstone of military life, is discussed with particular interest, shedding light on its stark contrasts and surprising parallels in the civilian sector. The episode dives into how military standards of accountability can translate into the civilian workspace, touching on the nuances of job security, performance improvement, and organizational loyalty. The podcast goes on to discuss the evolving challenges of early military leadership, including the necessity for rapid adaptability and continuous learning—a theme that resonates with professionals across all sectors.
Building trust through vulnerability and authenticity is another highlight of the conversation. Clint shares personal anecdotes that underscore the courage required to expose one's own weaknesses and the subsequent deepening of trust that occurs when a leader does so. This candid discussion provides insights into the delicate balance between the desire to be liked and the responsibility to make tough decisions for the greater good.
Presence and purpose in leadership are also central to the episode. Clint recounts his experiences transitioning to unexpected leadership roles and the significance of maintaining a positive attitude and presence. This is especially pertinent during times of unforeseen challenges, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, when leaders must demonstrate competence and problem-solving skills under pressure.
As the episode progresses, the topic of transitioning leadership from the military to the civilian sector is examined through the lens of Clint's personal journey. He shares his approach to situational leadership in consulting and the tailored support that helped him adapt and grow in a new professional landscape. The narrative is both enlightening and inspiring, highlighting the flexibility and resilience required to succeed in a civilian context. One of the most relatable aspects discussed is the challenge of balancing work and family life. Clint and the host, Joshua K. McMillion, touch upon the struggle for harmony, the need for boundaries, and the value of being present for one's family. This discussion extends to the importance of mentorship and the lasting impact leaders can have through the individuals they develop.
The episode concludes with reflecting on the power of asking questions and staying curious. Leaders are encouraged to seek continuous improvement and to enjoy the process of learning and growth. This final chapter serves as a reminder that leadership is not just about giving orders but about fostering a culture of inquiry and development.
In closing, the episode is a testament to the encouragement of Leaders to seek continuous improvement and enjoy learning and growth. This final chapter serves as a reminder that leadership is not just about giving orders but about fostering a culture of inquiry and development.
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